Monday, May 14, 2012
Battling depression with "battery-powered brains" - CNN report on deep brain stimulation (DBS)
AppId is over the quota AppId is over the quota CNN reports on treating severe depression with electrodes inside the brain:
The procedure -- called deep brain stimulation, or DBS -- targets a small brain structure known as Area 25, the "ringleader" for the brain circuits that control our moods.
Area 25 is relatively overactive in depressed patients. One hypothesis is that in patients who do not improve with treatments for depression, Area 25 is somehow stuck in overdrive.
DBS had been used since 1997 as a treatment for movement disorders, including essential tremor, Parkinson's disease and dystonia.
References:
Treating depression with electrodes inside the brain. CNN, 2012.
Battling depression with "battery-powered brains" - CNN report on deep brain stimulation (DBS)
AppId is over the quota AppId is over the quota CNN reports on treating severe depression with electrodes inside the brain:
The procedure -- called deep brain stimulation, or DBS -- targets a small brain structure known as Area 25, the "ringleader" for the brain circuits that control our moods.
Area 25 is relatively overactive in depressed patients. One hypothesis is that in patients who do not improve with treatments for depression, Area 25 is somehow stuck in overdrive.
DBS had been used since 1997 as a treatment for movement disorders, including essential tremor, Parkinson's disease and dystonia.
References:
Treating depression with electrodes inside the brain. CNN, 2012.
Battling depression with "battery-powered brains" - CNN report on deep brain stimulation (DBS)
AppId is over the quota AppId is over the quota CNN reports on treating severe depression with electrodes inside the brain:
The procedure -- called deep brain stimulation, or DBS -- targets a small brain structure known as Area 25, the "ringleader" for the brain circuits that control our moods.
Area 25 is relatively overactive in depressed patients. One hypothesis is that in patients who do not improve with treatments for depression, Area 25 is somehow stuck in overdrive.
DBS had been used since 1997 as a treatment for movement disorders, including essential tremor, Parkinson's disease and dystonia.
References:
Treating depression with electrodes inside the brain. CNN, 2012.
Re: PunBB.NET beta
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Pages Previous 1 2 3 NextYou must login or register to post a replyUtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET beta
hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betamarines wrote:
hcgtv wrote:hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betaMattF wrote:
Parameter name: request
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Pages Previous 1 2 3 NextYou must login or register to post a replyUtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET beta
Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
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Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.From: RussiaRegistered: 2008-06-25Posts: 20Re: PunBB.NET betaUtchin wrote:Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Line 20: {Line 21: _extension = new Extension(this);Line 22: _connection.ConnectionString = _connections["PunConnectionString"].ConnectionString;Line 23: BuildCategoryListView();Line 24: }Source File: c:\Users\Utchin\Downloads\punbbnet_beta\PunBB.Net\Default.aspx.cs Line: 22
You have to run http://
If you are going to use MS Access 2003 don't forget to put your *.mdb file into App_Data dir.
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaCan I run sql server 08?
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.Registered: 2006-08-26Posts: 184Re: PunBB.NET betait's a advanced step for punbb
Registered: 2008-10-15Posts: 79Re: PunBB.NET betaUtchin wrote:Can I run sql server 08?
Yes, it works with SQL Server 08
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaDo we not need the Database Schema ??
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.From: RussiaRegistered: 2008-06-25Posts: 20Re: PunBB.NET betaThx for your replies!
You can find it here 
Finnaly got my server working and I must say you guys have done a good job on it! You have done allot.
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.Registered: 2008-10-15Posts: 79Re: PunBB.NET betaPunBB.NET demo is available here
Registered: 2008-12-12Posts: 1,671Re: PunBB.NET betaDemo: I must say that it loads very nice - good speed - smooth transition. Nice job.
Registered: 2009-02-04Posts: 1Re: PunBB.NET betaNever tried PunBB, yet I got to love it very quickly, for it's simplicity and ease of costumization.
I still prefer PHP that's a non-Micro$oft language. And because I alredy understand and know how to deal with it
Still good news for those that like it 
Thx you guys
We've just opened our SVN with all the information about PunBB.NET.
http://punbb.informer.com/punbbnet/svn
(I promise that comments we will write in English only ).
what a shame... you would better work on pure PunBB instead of shitty NET -.-
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaWorking on .NET is a good side path for Punbb which has a rather large development team.
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betamarines wrote: what a shame... you would better work on pure PunBB instead of shitty NET -.-
I wouldn't go so far as calling .NET shitty, it's better than ActiveX any day of the week.
What I call shitty is the way Microsoft lured Anders Heljsberg away from Delphi so he could create C#. Anders was like a programming God to many of us, by him selling out, he lost his aura, he lost his glow. The .NET platform was more about slowing Sun's Java than to give me or you a really nice programming language, it's the way M$ works, protect the cash cow (Office) at any and all costs.
Utchin wrote:Working on .NET is a good side path for Punbb which has a rather large development team.
Did you mean to say sidetrack 
I know that the PunBB team could do anything they desire, after all, this is Open Source, scratch your own itch and all that. But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
Bert Garcia - When all you have is a keyboard41 Reply by MattF 2009-02-08 16:34 (edited by MattF 2009-02-08 16:35)From: South Yorkshire, EnglandRegistered: 2007-03-15Posts: 1,956Re: PunBB.NET betahcgtv wrote:What I call shitty is the way Microsoft lured Anders Heljsberg away from Delphi so he could create C#. Anders was like a programming God to many of us, by him selling out, he lost his aura, he lost his glow.
So, it's the fault of M$ and not the programmer who, (one can only assume), buggered off purely and simply for money, (or some other equally shallow motive)?
hcgtv wrote:
But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
I doubt the overall Pun image can be tarnished much further than it already has been.
From: South Yorkshire, EnglandRegistered: 2007-03-15Posts: 1,956Re: PunBB.NET betaBtw, can we please have the bog standard quote system reinstated. This damned quick quote setup is highly annoying.
hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betaMattF wrote: So, it's the fault of M$ and not the programmer who, (one can only assume), buggered off purely and simply for money, (or some other equally shallow motive)?
Here is an Anders Hejlsberg tribute page I put up back in 1998. The majority of the links are dead, but I saved the message that Anders sent to Compuserve on his departure and Chuck Jazdzewski's Usenet posting about Anders.
Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
George Santayana
But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
I guess it proves what we'd been told on the Flux forums.
fixed wrote:please, though, surprise me, but i'm interpreting this as writing-on-the-wall for php-centric punbb. i came to these forums to grab documentation on the 1.3 api to write some extensions, but i'm put off now.
Same there. I was feeling bad I didn't find the time to finish my extension, now I'm pretty happy with that... When I saw this PunBB.Net news I almost had an heart attack. Now I just need to find another OS BBS... 
When I saw this PunBB.Net news I almost had an heart attack
All you guys who are so discouraged because of PunBB.NET should understand that this project will make absolutely no harm to PHP PunBB. I've already wrote it here, but it seems to me i should do it again. PunBB and PunBB.NET are two separate projects. If you don't want to support PunBB.NET it's your choice. And we assure you that PunBB.NET won't replace PHP PunBB.
I was feeling bad I didn't find the time to finish my extension, now I'm pretty happy with that...
I think you should finish your extension
Since there are 2 developers working in punbb.net that are not working on punbb.org, there is the loss for punbb I think. Why have 2 teams while could have one bigger more powerfull team?
Also, punbb 1.3 took so long to launch, and now I don't see a punbb 1.3.3 until maybe the end of 2009. I will rather see more mod finished and maybe an upgrade routine that does not truncate all of your 1.2 forum text in your DB(migration to UTF-8 is broken and should not ship).
Of course there is place for all programing languages, but maintaing 2 code base is like shipping a forum with custom implementation of php5 in php4, a lost of time in my view. "Reuse as much as you can" should be the idea.
Good luck and let see how this evolves
Oliver
Registered: 2006-03-03Posts: 86Re: PunBB.NET betaI'm sad to see your development team broken in half, this will only slow down PunBB development. I've never heard of a company support a web product for 2 platforms. 
Especially if you try to keep them at the same level with the same features, I just dont see that working out good at all. Building more extensions for PunBB would of increased its popularity a lot more than any .NET version.
PHP and .NET programming skills are very different. PunBB.NET devs are not too good in PHP and we are not good in .NET. So we couldn't just join .NET-team to PHP-team - this would be useless. And vice versa.
Registered: 2006-06-07Posts: 80Re: PunBB.NET betaSo why don't you hire two more php devels? I have no problem against ASP, but I only have fear that punbb 1.4 will take the same time to develop that 1.3 did.
If .net developers are not hired, then just ignore this message
Very nice indeed.
I must say, .NET 1 seemed a bit crappy, but I've had a chance to use .NET 3.5 at work, with VS2008, and it is AWESOME
Also note that it is not ASP, but ASP.NET. Worlds of difference between them
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Best medical-review blog, blog carnival week
What happened to Carnival medblog "Grand Rounds"? It is sad to see that the disappearance of the Carnival medblog "Grand rounds". The weekly summary of the best medical blog post was published from 2004, with only a few breaks. There have been issues for more than a month, and no new ones are planned. A new initiative from Health Care SoMedia review could replace some of them http://goo.gl/73RpE
This post is a part of a project to recreate a weekly review, or the best medical blog carnival blog posts. Feel free to send your suggestions to my email at clinicalcases@gmail.com. "Best of Medical Blogs-weekly review, blog carnival" will be released on Tuesday, just as the old Grand rounds. The organizers of blog carnival Grand Rounds. @ NickGenes, and @ DrVal are aware of this project.
As physicians to manage Social Media profiles
Personal vs. Professional: how doctors handle Their Social Media profiles is a blog post by Matt Wood of http://goo.gl/JNyu1 blog of medicine from the University of Chicago. Matt has posted a series of great blog post recently about using social media. Doctors at the University of Chicago are clearly the leader in using social media in a city with a rich history of great medical centers as medicine UChicago, Northwestern, Childrens ' Memorial, Rush, Loyola and Northshore. Matt tries to discover what makes the UChicago doctors more comfortable using social media that their peers at other institutions: http://goo.gl/JNyu1
Consumers use social media for medical decisions
Consumer expectations for Social Media Healthcare – this is a brief summary by Ed Bennett, "a maker of lists" of using the oragnizations healtchare social media http://goo.gl/REXqV
Digital strategies for health care organizations-a good overview from the Australian http://goo.gl/PZtWl blog IV line
Salaries of doctors
Dr. Mandrola quotes a colleague experienced salaries of doctors: "we are all happy with what we do. What upsets us most is seeing what others are doing. " Since then, I try not to dwell on what others do. http://goo.gl/WBnJq
Health care social media is a "moral obligation" for physicians
Health care social media is a moral obligation, says Farris Timimi, M.D., Medical Director for the Mayo Clinic Center for Social Media, quoted by "Fierce health IT". Social media must be grown and nurtured for patients. "Our patients are there. Our moral obligation is to meet them where they are and give them the information they need so they can try to recover, "said Dr. Timimi. "You have to be ready for this. Builds for patients; not for themselves. "This is not marketing," he added. "This is the right thing to do" http://goo.gl/BHzKf
Social media is no longer a moral obligation for physicians rather than appear on TV and radio shows and write newspaper columns. It's nice if you have the time and the ability to do so, but the most important things is to focus on what matters most — providing the correct diagnosis and the best treatment possible for your patients.
Comment by Twitter:
Westby Fisher, MD @ doctorwes: Best of Medical Blogs-blog carnival week, RIP bit.ly/KsBSLJ
Laika (Jacqueline) @ laikas: after the demise of Grand Rounds @ DrVes begins its weekly blog review bit.ly/Iqgcmx Gr8 initiative; but still missing the old GR
WB Medical Education @ WBmeded: hope to control some of these last, looks interesting RT @ DrVes: Best of Blogs: weekly medical blog carnival, goo.gl/fb/d870P
Mike Cadogan @ sandnsurf: another great way to control your information overload with the Best of Blogs-weekly medical review bit.ly/K1stxo
Best medical-review blog, blog carnival week
What happened to Carnival medblog "Grand Rounds"? It is sad to see that the disappearance of the Carnival medblog "Grand rounds". The weekly summary of the best medical blog post was published from 2004, with only a few breaks. There have been issues for more than a month, and no new ones are planned. A new initiative from Health Care SoMedia review could replace some of them http://goo.gl/73RpE
This post is a part of a project to recreate a weekly review, or the best medical blog carnival blog posts. Feel free to send your suggestions to my email at clinicalcases@gmail.com. "Best of Medical Blogs-weekly review, blog carnival" will be released on Tuesday, just as the old Grand rounds. The organizers of blog carnival Grand Rounds. @ NickGenes, and @ DrVal are aware of this project.
As physicians to manage Social Media profiles
Personal vs. Professional: how doctors handle Their Social Media profiles is a blog post by Matt Wood of http://goo.gl/JNyu1 blog of medicine from the University of Chicago. Matt has posted a series of great blog post recently about using social media. Doctors at the University of Chicago are clearly the leader in using social media in a city with a rich history of great medical centers as medicine UChicago, Northwestern, Childrens ' Memorial, Rush, Loyola and Northshore. Matt tries to discover what makes the UChicago doctors more comfortable using social media that their peers at other institutions: http://goo.gl/JNyu1
Consumers use social media for medical decisions
Consumer expectations for Social Media Healthcare – this is a brief summary by Ed Bennett, "a maker of lists" of using the oragnizations healtchare social media http://goo.gl/REXqV
Digital strategies for health care organizations-a good overview from the Australian http://goo.gl/PZtWl blog IV line
Salaries of doctors
Dr. Mandrola quotes a colleague experienced salaries of doctors: "we are all happy with what we do. What upsets us most is seeing what others are doing. " Since then, I try not to dwell on what others do. http://goo.gl/WBnJq
Health care social media is a "moral obligation" for physicians
Health care social media is a moral obligation, says Farris Timimi, M.D., Medical Director for the Mayo Clinic Center for Social Media, quoted by "Fierce health IT". Social media must be grown and nurtured for patients. "Our patients are there. Our moral obligation is to meet them where they are and give them the information they need so they can try to recover, "said Dr. Timimi. "You have to be ready for this. Builds for patients; not for themselves. "This is not marketing," he added. "This is the right thing to do" http://goo.gl/BHzKf
Social media is no longer a moral obligation for physicians rather than appear on TV and radio shows and write newspaper columns. It's nice if you have the time and the ability to do so, but the most important things is to focus on what matters most — providing the correct diagnosis and the best treatment possible for your patients.
Comment by Twitter:
Westby Fisher, MD @ doctorwes: Best of Medical Blogs-blog carnival week, RIP bit.ly/KsBSLJ
Laika (Jacqueline) @ laikas: after the demise of Grand Rounds @ DrVes begins its weekly blog review bit.ly/Iqgcmx Gr8 initiative; but still missing the old GR
WB Medical Education @ WBmeded: hope to control some of these last, looks interesting RT @ DrVes: Best of Blogs: weekly medical blog carnival, goo.gl/fb/d870P
Mike Cadogan @ sandnsurf: another great way to control your information overload with the Best of Blogs-weekly medical review bit.ly/K1stxo
Best medical-review blog, blog carnival week
What happened to Carnival medblog "Grand Rounds"? It is sad to see that the disappearance of the Carnival medblog "Grand rounds". The weekly summary of the best medical blog post was published from 2004, with only a few breaks. There have been issues for more than a month, and no new ones are planned. A new initiative from Health Care SoMedia review could replace some of them http://goo.gl/73RpE
This post is a part of a project to recreate a weekly review, or the best medical blog carnival blog posts. Feel free to send your suggestions to my email at clinicalcases@gmail.com. "Best of Medical Blogs-weekly review, blog carnival" will be released on Tuesday, just as the old Grand rounds. The organizers of blog carnival Grand Rounds. @ NickGenes, and @ DrVal are aware of this project.
As physicians to manage Social Media profiles
Personal vs. Professional: how doctors handle Their Social Media profiles is a blog post by Matt Wood of http://goo.gl/JNyu1 blog of medicine from the University of Chicago. Matt has posted a series of great blog post recently about using social media. Doctors at the University of Chicago are clearly the leader in using social media in a city with a rich history of great medical centers as medicine UChicago, Northwestern, Childrens ' Memorial, Rush, Loyola and Northshore. Matt tries to discover what makes the UChicago doctors more comfortable using social media that their peers at other institutions: http://goo.gl/JNyu1
Consumers use social media for medical decisions
Consumer expectations for Social Media Healthcare – this is a brief summary by Ed Bennett, "a maker of lists" of using the oragnizations healtchare social media http://goo.gl/REXqV
Digital strategies for health care organizations-a good overview from the Australian http://goo.gl/PZtWl blog IV line
Salaries of doctors
Dr. Mandrola quotes a colleague experienced salaries of doctors: "we are all happy with what we do. What upsets us most is seeing what others are doing. " Since then, I try not to dwell on what others do. http://goo.gl/WBnJq
Health care social media is a "moral obligation" for physicians
Health care social media is a moral obligation, says Farris Timimi, M.D., Medical Director for the Mayo Clinic Center for Social Media, quoted by "Fierce health IT". Social media must be grown and nurtured for patients. "Our patients are there. Our moral obligation is to meet them where they are and give them the information they need so they can try to recover, "said Dr. Timimi. "You have to be ready for this. Builds for patients; not for themselves. "This is not marketing," he added. "This is the right thing to do" http://goo.gl/BHzKf
Social media is no longer a moral obligation for physicians rather than appear on TV and radio shows and write newspaper columns. It's nice if you have the time and the ability to do so, but the most important things is to focus on what matters most — providing the correct diagnosis and the best treatment possible for your patients.
Comment by Twitter:
Westby Fisher, MD @ doctorwes: Best of Medical Blogs-blog carnival week, RIP bit.ly/KsBSLJ
Laika (Jacqueline) @ laikas: after the demise of Grand Rounds @ DrVes begins its weekly blog review bit.ly/Iqgcmx Gr8 initiative; but still missing the old GR
WB Medical Education @ WBmeded: hope to control some of these last, looks interesting RT @ DrVes: Best of Blogs: weekly medical blog carnival, goo.gl/fb/d870P
Mike Cadogan @ sandnsurf: another great way to control your information overload with the Best of Blogs-weekly medical review bit.ly/K1stxo
Re: PunBB.NET beta
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Pages Previous 1 2 3 NextYou must login or register to post a replyUtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betahcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betamarines wrote:
hcgtv wrote:hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betaMattF wrote:
Parameter name: request
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Pages Previous 1 2 3 NextYou must login or register to post a replyUtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET beta
Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Line 20: {Line 21: _extension = new Extension(this);Line 22: _connection.ConnectionString = _connections["PunConnectionString"].ConnectionString;Line 23: BuildCategoryListView();Line 24: }Source File: c:\Users\Utchin\Downloads\punbbnet_beta\PunBB.Net\Default.aspx.cs Line: 22
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.From: RussiaRegistered: 2008-06-25Posts: 20Re: PunBB.NET betaUtchin wrote:Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Line 20: {Line 21: _extension = new Extension(this);Line 22: _connection.ConnectionString = _connections["PunConnectionString"].ConnectionString;Line 23: BuildCategoryListView();Line 24: }Source File: c:\Users\Utchin\Downloads\punbbnet_beta\PunBB.Net\Default.aspx.cs Line: 22
You have to run http://
If you are going to use MS Access 2003 don't forget to put your *.mdb file into App_Data dir.
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaCan I run sql server 08?
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.Registered: 2006-08-26Posts: 184Re: PunBB.NET betait's a advanced step for punbb
Registered: 2008-10-15Posts: 79Re: PunBB.NET betaUtchin wrote:Can I run sql server 08?
Yes, it works with SQL Server 08
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaDo we not need the Database Schema ??
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.From: RussiaRegistered: 2008-06-25Posts: 20Re: PunBB.NET betaThx for your replies!
You can find it here
Finnaly got my server working and I must say you guys have done a good job on it! You have done allot.
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.Registered: 2008-10-15Posts: 79Re: PunBB.NET betaPunBB.NET demo is available here
Registered: 2008-12-12Posts: 1,671Re: PunBB.NET betaDemo: I must say that it loads very nice - good speed - smooth transition. Nice job.
Registered: 2009-02-04Posts: 1Re: PunBB.NET betaNever tried PunBB, yet I got to love it very quickly, for it's simplicity and ease of costumization.
I still prefer PHP that's a non-Micro$oft language. And because I alredy understand and know how to deal with it
Still good news for those that like it
Thx you guys
We've just opened our SVN with all the information about PunBB.NET.
http://punbb.informer.com/punbbnet/svn
(I promise that comments we will write in English only ).
what a shame... you would better work on pure PunBB instead of shitty NET -.-
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaWorking on .NET is a good side path for Punbb which has a rather large development team.
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betamarines wrote: what a shame... you would better work on pure PunBB instead of shitty NET -.-
I wouldn't go so far as calling .NET shitty, it's better than ActiveX any day of the week.
What I call shitty is the way Microsoft lured Anders Heljsberg away from Delphi so he could create C#. Anders was like a programming God to many of us, by him selling out, he lost his aura, he lost his glow. The .NET platform was more about slowing Sun's Java than to give me or you a really nice programming language, it's the way M$ works, protect the cash cow (Office) at any and all costs.
Utchin wrote:Working on .NET is a good side path for Punbb which has a rather large development team.
Did you mean to say sidetrack
I know that the PunBB team could do anything they desire, after all, this is Open Source, scratch your own itch and all that. But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
Bert Garcia - When all you have is a keyboard41 Reply by MattF 2009-02-08 16:34 (edited by MattF 2009-02-08 16:35)From: South Yorkshire, EnglandRegistered: 2007-03-15Posts: 1,956Re: PunBB.NET betahcgtv wrote:What I call shitty is the way Microsoft lured Anders Heljsberg away from Delphi so he could create C#. Anders was like a programming God to many of us, by him selling out, he lost his aura, he lost his glow.
So, it's the fault of M$ and not the programmer who, (one can only assume), buggered off purely and simply for money, (or some other equally shallow motive)?
hcgtv wrote:
But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
I doubt the overall Pun image can be tarnished much further than it already has been.
From: South Yorkshire, EnglandRegistered: 2007-03-15Posts: 1,956Re: PunBB.NET betaBtw, can we please have the bog standard quote system reinstated. This damned quick quote setup is highly annoying.
hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betaMattF wrote: So, it's the fault of M$ and not the programmer who, (one can only assume), buggered off purely and simply for money, (or some other equally shallow motive)?
Here is an Anders Hejlsberg tribute page I put up back in 1998. The majority of the links are dead, but I saved the message that Anders sent to Compuserve on his departure and Chuck Jazdzewski's Usenet posting about Anders.
Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
George Santayana
But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
I guess it proves what we'd been told on the Flux forums.
fixed wrote:please, though, surprise me, but i'm interpreting this as writing-on-the-wall for php-centric punbb. i came to these forums to grab documentation on the 1.3 api to write some extensions, but i'm put off now.
Same there. I was feeling bad I didn't find the time to finish my extension, now I'm pretty happy with that... When I saw this PunBB.Net news I almost had an heart attack. Now I just need to find another OS BBS...
When I saw this PunBB.Net news I almost had an heart attack
All you guys who are so discouraged because of PunBB.NET should understand that this project will make absolutely no harm to PHP PunBB. I've already wrote it here, but it seems to me i should do it again. PunBB and PunBB.NET are two separate projects. If you don't want to support PunBB.NET it's your choice. And we assure you that PunBB.NET won't replace PHP PunBB.
I was feeling bad I didn't find the time to finish my extension, now I'm pretty happy with that...
I think you should finish your extension
Since there are 2 developers working in punbb.net that are not working on punbb.org, there is the loss for punbb I think. Why have 2 teams while could have one bigger more powerfull team?
Also, punbb 1.3 took so long to launch, and now I don't see a punbb 1.3.3 until maybe the end of 2009. I will rather see more mod finished and maybe an upgrade routine that does not truncate all of your 1.2 forum text in your DB(migration to UTF-8 is broken and should not ship).
Of course there is place for all programing languages, but maintaing 2 code base is like shipping a forum with custom implementation of php5 in php4, a lost of time in my view. "Reuse as much as you can" should be the idea.
Good luck and let see how this evolves
Oliver
Registered: 2006-03-03Posts: 86Re: PunBB.NET betaI'm sad to see your development team broken in half, this will only slow down PunBB development. I've never heard of a company support a web product for 2 platforms. Especially if you try to keep them at the same level with the same features, I just dont see that working out good at all. Building more extensions for PunBB would of increased its popularity a lot more than any .NET version.
PHP and .NET programming skills are very different. PunBB.NET devs are not too good in PHP and we are not good in .NET. So we couldn't just join .NET-team to PHP-team - this would be useless. And vice versa.
Registered: 2006-06-07Posts: 80Re: PunBB.NET betaSo why don't you hire two more php devels? I have no problem against ASP, but I only have fear that punbb 1.4 will take the same time to develop that 1.3 did.
If .net developers are not hired, then just ignore this message
Very nice indeed.
I must say, .NET 1 seemed a bit crappy, but I've had a chance to use .NET 3.5 at work, with VS2008, and it is AWESOME
Also note that it is not ASP, but ASP.NET. Worlds of difference between them
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Re: PunBB.NET beta
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Pages Previous 1 2 3 NextYou must login or register to post a replyUtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betahcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betamarines wrote:
hcgtv wrote:hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betaMattF wrote:
Parameter name: request
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Parameter name: request
Pages Previous 1 2 3 NextYou must login or register to post a replyUtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET beta
Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Line 20: {Line 21: _extension = new Extension(this);Line 22: _connection.ConnectionString = _connections["PunConnectionString"].ConnectionString;Line 23: BuildCategoryListView();Line 24: }Source File: c:\Users\Utchin\Downloads\punbbnet_beta\PunBB.Net\Default.aspx.cs Line: 22
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.From: RussiaRegistered: 2008-06-25Posts: 20Re: PunBB.NET betaUtchin wrote:Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Line 20: {Line 21: _extension = new Extension(this);Line 22: _connection.ConnectionString = _connections["PunConnectionString"].ConnectionString;Line 23: BuildCategoryListView();Line 24: }Source File: c:\Users\Utchin\Downloads\punbbnet_beta\PunBB.Net\Default.aspx.cs Line: 22
You have to run http://
If you are going to use MS Access 2003 don't forget to put your *.mdb file into App_Data dir.
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaCan I run sql server 08?
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.Registered: 2006-08-26Posts: 184Re: PunBB.NET betait's a advanced step for punbb
Registered: 2008-10-15Posts: 79Re: PunBB.NET betaUtchin wrote:Can I run sql server 08?
Yes, it works with SQL Server 08
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaDo we not need the Database Schema ??
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.From: RussiaRegistered: 2008-06-25Posts: 20Re: PunBB.NET betaThx for your replies!
You can find it here
Finnaly got my server working and I must say you guys have done a good job on it! You have done allot.
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.Registered: 2008-10-15Posts: 79Re: PunBB.NET betaPunBB.NET demo is available here
Registered: 2008-12-12Posts: 1,671Re: PunBB.NET betaDemo: I must say that it loads very nice - good speed - smooth transition. Nice job.
Registered: 2009-02-04Posts: 1Re: PunBB.NET betaNever tried PunBB, yet I got to love it very quickly, for it's simplicity and ease of costumization.
I still prefer PHP that's a non-Micro$oft language. And because I alredy understand and know how to deal with it
Still good news for those that like it
Thx you guys
We've just opened our SVN with all the information about PunBB.NET.
http://punbb.informer.com/punbbnet/svn
(I promise that comments we will write in English only ).
what a shame... you would better work on pure PunBB instead of shitty NET -.-
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaWorking on .NET is a good side path for Punbb which has a rather large development team.
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betamarines wrote: what a shame... you would better work on pure PunBB instead of shitty NET -.-
I wouldn't go so far as calling .NET shitty, it's better than ActiveX any day of the week.
What I call shitty is the way Microsoft lured Anders Heljsberg away from Delphi so he could create C#. Anders was like a programming God to many of us, by him selling out, he lost his aura, he lost his glow. The .NET platform was more about slowing Sun's Java than to give me or you a really nice programming language, it's the way M$ works, protect the cash cow (Office) at any and all costs.
Utchin wrote:Working on .NET is a good side path for Punbb which has a rather large development team.
Did you mean to say sidetrack
I know that the PunBB team could do anything they desire, after all, this is Open Source, scratch your own itch and all that. But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
Bert Garcia - When all you have is a keyboard41 Reply by MattF 2009-02-08 16:34 (edited by MattF 2009-02-08 16:35)From: South Yorkshire, EnglandRegistered: 2007-03-15Posts: 1,956Re: PunBB.NET betahcgtv wrote:What I call shitty is the way Microsoft lured Anders Heljsberg away from Delphi so he could create C#. Anders was like a programming God to many of us, by him selling out, he lost his aura, he lost his glow.
So, it's the fault of M$ and not the programmer who, (one can only assume), buggered off purely and simply for money, (or some other equally shallow motive)?
hcgtv wrote:
But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
I doubt the overall Pun image can be tarnished much further than it already has been.
From: South Yorkshire, EnglandRegistered: 2007-03-15Posts: 1,956Re: PunBB.NET betaBtw, can we please have the bog standard quote system reinstated. This damned quick quote setup is highly annoying.
hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betaMattF wrote: So, it's the fault of M$ and not the programmer who, (one can only assume), buggered off purely and simply for money, (or some other equally shallow motive)?
Here is an Anders Hejlsberg tribute page I put up back in 1998. The majority of the links are dead, but I saved the message that Anders sent to Compuserve on his departure and Chuck Jazdzewski's Usenet posting about Anders.
Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
George Santayana
But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
I guess it proves what we'd been told on the Flux forums.
fixed wrote:please, though, surprise me, but i'm interpreting this as writing-on-the-wall for php-centric punbb. i came to these forums to grab documentation on the 1.3 api to write some extensions, but i'm put off now.
Same there. I was feeling bad I didn't find the time to finish my extension, now I'm pretty happy with that... When I saw this PunBB.Net news I almost had an heart attack. Now I just need to find another OS BBS...
When I saw this PunBB.Net news I almost had an heart attack
All you guys who are so discouraged because of PunBB.NET should understand that this project will make absolutely no harm to PHP PunBB. I've already wrote it here, but it seems to me i should do it again. PunBB and PunBB.NET are two separate projects. If you don't want to support PunBB.NET it's your choice. And we assure you that PunBB.NET won't replace PHP PunBB.
I was feeling bad I didn't find the time to finish my extension, now I'm pretty happy with that...
I think you should finish your extension
Since there are 2 developers working in punbb.net that are not working on punbb.org, there is the loss for punbb I think. Why have 2 teams while could have one bigger more powerfull team?
Also, punbb 1.3 took so long to launch, and now I don't see a punbb 1.3.3 until maybe the end of 2009. I will rather see more mod finished and maybe an upgrade routine that does not truncate all of your 1.2 forum text in your DB(migration to UTF-8 is broken and should not ship).
Of course there is place for all programing languages, but maintaing 2 code base is like shipping a forum with custom implementation of php5 in php4, a lost of time in my view. "Reuse as much as you can" should be the idea.
Good luck and let see how this evolves
Oliver
Registered: 2006-03-03Posts: 86Re: PunBB.NET betaI'm sad to see your development team broken in half, this will only slow down PunBB development. I've never heard of a company support a web product for 2 platforms. Especially if you try to keep them at the same level with the same features, I just dont see that working out good at all. Building more extensions for PunBB would of increased its popularity a lot more than any .NET version.
PHP and .NET programming skills are very different. PunBB.NET devs are not too good in PHP and we are not good in .NET. So we couldn't just join .NET-team to PHP-team - this would be useless. And vice versa.
Registered: 2006-06-07Posts: 80Re: PunBB.NET betaSo why don't you hire two more php devels? I have no problem against ASP, but I only have fear that punbb 1.4 will take the same time to develop that 1.3 did.
If .net developers are not hired, then just ignore this message
Very nice indeed.
I must say, .NET 1 seemed a bit crappy, but I've had a chance to use .NET 3.5 at work, with VS2008, and it is AWESOME
Also note that it is not ASP, but ASP.NET. Worlds of difference between them
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Re: PunBB.NET beta
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Pages Previous 1 2 3 NextYou must login or register to post a replyUtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betahcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betamarines wrote:
hcgtv wrote:hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betaMattF wrote:
Parameter name: request
Translate Request has too much data
Parameter name: request
Pages Previous 1 2 3 NextYou must login or register to post a replyUtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET beta
Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Line 20: {Line 21: _extension = new Extension(this);Line 22: _connection.ConnectionString = _connections["PunConnectionString"].ConnectionString;Line 23: BuildCategoryListView();Line 24: }Source File: c:\Users\Utchin\Downloads\punbbnet_beta\PunBB.Net\Default.aspx.cs Line: 22
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.From: RussiaRegistered: 2008-06-25Posts: 20Re: PunBB.NET betaUtchin wrote:Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
Line 20: {Line 21: _extension = new Extension(this);Line 22: _connection.ConnectionString = _connections["PunConnectionString"].ConnectionString;Line 23: BuildCategoryListView();Line 24: }Source File: c:\Users\Utchin\Downloads\punbbnet_beta\PunBB.Net\Default.aspx.cs Line: 22
You have to run http://
If you are going to use MS Access 2003 don't forget to put your *.mdb file into App_Data dir.
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaCan I run sql server 08?
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.Registered: 2006-08-26Posts: 184Re: PunBB.NET betait's a advanced step for punbb
Registered: 2008-10-15Posts: 79Re: PunBB.NET betaUtchin wrote:Can I run sql server 08?
Yes, it works with SQL Server 08
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaDo we not need the Database Schema ??
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.From: RussiaRegistered: 2008-06-25Posts: 20Re: PunBB.NET betaThx for your replies!
You can find it here
Finnaly got my server working and I must say you guys have done a good job on it! You have done allot.
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.Registered: 2008-10-15Posts: 79Re: PunBB.NET betaPunBB.NET demo is available here
Registered: 2008-12-12Posts: 1,671Re: PunBB.NET betaDemo: I must say that it loads very nice - good speed - smooth transition. Nice job.
Registered: 2009-02-04Posts: 1Re: PunBB.NET betaNever tried PunBB, yet I got to love it very quickly, for it's simplicity and ease of costumization.
I still prefer PHP that's a non-Micro$oft language. And because I alredy understand and know how to deal with it
Still good news for those that like it
Thx you guys
We've just opened our SVN with all the information about PunBB.NET.
http://punbb.informer.com/punbbnet/svn
(I promise that comments we will write in English only ).
what a shame... you would better work on pure PunBB instead of shitty NET -.-
UtchinPunBB senior memberOfflineRegistered: 2007-02-09Posts: 758Re: PunBB.NET betaWorking on .NET is a good side path for Punbb which has a rather large development team.
Sorry. Unactive due to personal life.hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betamarines wrote: what a shame... you would better work on pure PunBB instead of shitty NET -.-
I wouldn't go so far as calling .NET shitty, it's better than ActiveX any day of the week.
What I call shitty is the way Microsoft lured Anders Heljsberg away from Delphi so he could create C#. Anders was like a programming God to many of us, by him selling out, he lost his aura, he lost his glow. The .NET platform was more about slowing Sun's Java than to give me or you a really nice programming language, it's the way M$ works, protect the cash cow (Office) at any and all costs.
Utchin wrote:Working on .NET is a good side path for Punbb which has a rather large development team.
Did you mean to say sidetrack
I know that the PunBB team could do anything they desire, after all, this is Open Source, scratch your own itch and all that. But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
Bert Garcia - When all you have is a keyboard41 Reply by MattF 2009-02-08 16:34 (edited by MattF 2009-02-08 16:35)From: South Yorkshire, EnglandRegistered: 2007-03-15Posts: 1,956Re: PunBB.NET betahcgtv wrote:What I call shitty is the way Microsoft lured Anders Heljsberg away from Delphi so he could create C#. Anders was like a programming God to many of us, by him selling out, he lost his aura, he lost his glow.
So, it's the fault of M$ and not the programmer who, (one can only assume), buggered off purely and simply for money, (or some other equally shallow motive)?
hcgtv wrote:
But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
I doubt the overall Pun image can be tarnished much further than it already has been.
From: South Yorkshire, EnglandRegistered: 2007-03-15Posts: 1,956Re: PunBB.NET betaBtw, can we please have the bog standard quote system reinstated. This damned quick quote setup is highly annoying.
hcgtvSenior MemberOfflineFrom: Charlotte, NCRegistered: 2004-06-25Posts: 1,991Re: PunBB.NET betaMattF wrote: So, it's the fault of M$ and not the programmer who, (one can only assume), buggered off purely and simply for money, (or some other equally shallow motive)?
Here is an Anders Hejlsberg tribute page I put up back in 1998. The majority of the links are dead, but I saved the message that Anders sent to Compuserve on his departure and Chuck Jazdzewski's Usenet posting about Anders.
Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
George Santayana
But creating a .NET equivalent of PunBB sends the wrong signal.
I guess it proves what we'd been told on the Flux forums.
fixed wrote:please, though, surprise me, but i'm interpreting this as writing-on-the-wall for php-centric punbb. i came to these forums to grab documentation on the 1.3 api to write some extensions, but i'm put off now.
Same there. I was feeling bad I didn't find the time to finish my extension, now I'm pretty happy with that... When I saw this PunBB.Net news I almost had an heart attack. Now I just need to find another OS BBS...
When I saw this PunBB.Net news I almost had an heart attack
All you guys who are so discouraged because of PunBB.NET should understand that this project will make absolutely no harm to PHP PunBB. I've already wrote it here, but it seems to me i should do it again. PunBB and PunBB.NET are two separate projects. If you don't want to support PunBB.NET it's your choice. And we assure you that PunBB.NET won't replace PHP PunBB.
I was feeling bad I didn't find the time to finish my extension, now I'm pretty happy with that...
I think you should finish your extension
Since there are 2 developers working in punbb.net that are not working on punbb.org, there is the loss for punbb I think. Why have 2 teams while could have one bigger more powerfull team?
Also, punbb 1.3 took so long to launch, and now I don't see a punbb 1.3.3 until maybe the end of 2009. I will rather see more mod finished and maybe an upgrade routine that does not truncate all of your 1.2 forum text in your DB(migration to UTF-8 is broken and should not ship).
Of course there is place for all programing languages, but maintaing 2 code base is like shipping a forum with custom implementation of php5 in php4, a lost of time in my view. "Reuse as much as you can" should be the idea.
Good luck and let see how this evolves
Oliver
Registered: 2006-03-03Posts: 86Re: PunBB.NET betaI'm sad to see your development team broken in half, this will only slow down PunBB development. I've never heard of a company support a web product for 2 platforms. Especially if you try to keep them at the same level with the same features, I just dont see that working out good at all. Building more extensions for PunBB would of increased its popularity a lot more than any .NET version.
PHP and .NET programming skills are very different. PunBB.NET devs are not too good in PHP and we are not good in .NET. So we couldn't just join .NET-team to PHP-team - this would be useless. And vice versa.
Registered: 2006-06-07Posts: 80Re: PunBB.NET betaSo why don't you hire two more php devels? I have no problem against ASP, but I only have fear that punbb 1.4 will take the same time to develop that 1.3 did.
If .net developers are not hired, then just ignore this message
Very nice indeed.
I must say, .NET 1 seemed a bit crappy, but I've had a chance to use .NET 3.5 at work, with VS2008, and it is AWESOME
Also note that it is not ASP, but ASP.NET. Worlds of difference between them
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